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Sound Bytes: What We Can Learn From How Indigenous Peoples Listen

October 11, 2022

A day at sea with members of the Northern Chumash Tribal Council and the Hispanic Access Foundation.

From left to right: Felipe Villegas, Violet Sage Walker, and Juan Rosas on the bow of the R/V Fulmar From left to right: Felipe Villegas, Violet Sage Walker, and Juan Rosas on the bow of the R/V Fulmar. Credit: NOAA Fisheries / Cory Hom-Weaver

In June 2022, research groups from half a dozen organizations joined forces to complete a cruise on R/V Fulmar, to sail from Monterey down to Morro Bay, California. The cruise was a week long, and surveyed areas off the Big Sur Coast in the proposed Chumash Heritage National Marine Sanctuary; areas that are notoriously understudied.

A photo of the guests and scientists on the R/V Fulmar. There are two lines of people facing the camera. Back row from left to right: Violet Sage Walker, Juan Rosas, Felipe J. Villegas, Paul Michel, Ernie Houston, Michael Khus, Anne Simonis, and John Ryan. Front row from left to right: Lindsey Peavey Reeves, Will Oestreich, P.J. Webb, Shannon Rankin, Anastasia Kunz, Gianna Patchen, and Cory Hom-Weaver
Back row from left to right: Violet Sage Walker, Juan Rosas, Felipe J. Villegas, Paul Michel, Ernie Houston, Michael Khus-zarate, Anne Simonis, and John Ryan. Front row from left to right: Lindsey Peavey Reeves, Will Oestreich, P.J. Webb, Shannon Rankin, Anastasia Kunz, Gianna Patchen, and Cory Hom-Weaver. Credit: NOAA NMSF / Lindsey Peavey Reeves

On this collaborative research cruise we were fortunate to have a few members of the Northern Chumash Tribal Council, the Northern Chumash Bear Clan and the Hispanic Access Foundation sail with us. To put it mildly, all of the scientists onboard had eye-opening moments as we had the opportunity to hear descriptions of how Chumash people appreciate and understand sounds of marine life.

For example, my Monterey Bay Aquarium Research Institute colleague, Dr. Will Oestreich, was explaining that he and his team had recently discovered that "formerly thought to be solitary" blue whales produce special vocalizations that indicate to each other that it’s time to migrate to another location. Our Chumash colleagues spoke up and shared that, indeed they do, and they are called “traveling songs.” And more—there are unique songs for all kinds of behavior, like mourning songs, as well as songs mothers use only to connect with their calf, and songs of danger. 

These are outside of the grasp we, as marine ecologists, have on this subject. It was a powerful reminder that the amount of traditional ecological knowledge that Indigenous Peoples hold is immense. And further, it transcends anything our fragile hydrophones can ever record.

Violet Sage Walker, a member of the Northern Chumash Tribal Counsel smiling as she stands on the R/V Fulmar. The ocean is in the background and she is wrapped up in a towel to keep her warm.
Violet Sage Walker explaining the Chumash’s traveling songs to the team and crew on the R/V Fulmar. Credit: NOAA Fisheries / Shannon Rankin

Humans began recording sounds in the ocean at least as far back as World War II, but actually, we have been studying ocean sounds for much longer than that. For example, the Chumash and other Indigenous groups have inhabited the California coast for 20,000 years or more. Their lives have been intertwined with ocean life for much longer than we’ve been eavesdropping with hydrophones, and this is really important. Today, we have a lot to learn from these groups who have different ways of interacting with the natural world, and who don’t experience the barriers between land and sea like Western scientists might.

Scientist and guests face away from the camera as they look over the right side of the RV Fulmar at a pod of northern right whale dolphins leaping out of the water.
From left to right: Anastasia Kunz, Juan Rosas, Cory Hom-Weaver, and Lindsey Peavey Reeves watch as a pod of northern right whale dolphins approach the R/V Fulmar. Credit: NOAA Fisheries / Shannon Rankin.

We know we are late to the game, we’ve got a steep learning curve, and that we’ve got a lot of catching up to do. But it gives me great hope that, collectively, we can piece together our understanding of the underwater world in meaningful ways that I hadn’t quite imagined bounded by my scientific training.

They say to be a good listener you should listen to understand, not to answer. That rings true to me now more than ever.

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Last updated by Southwest Fisheries Science Center on October 25, 2022